Wednesday, March 3, 2010

Kick-Out!! Radio - Episode 31


Kick-Out!! Radio returns from its month-long hiatus! Where we've been, where we're going, Raw, NXT, why TNA moving to Mondays could be a good thing, and why people need to lighten up when someone disagrees with them. 

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Theme song: "Believe" by Grasp Infinity

Posted by Razor at 9:46 PM
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22 comments:

  1. Razor,

    It's great you have your podcast back on track again. You were missed.

    You do know you don't have to have an iTunes listing for people to subscribe to your podcast. An iTunes listing is great for discovery, but it's not necessary for subscribing.

    I just went to your kickoutradio.podbean.com page and subscribed to your podcast from there. It was easy and it only took a click or two.

    Podbean has even provided an iTunes subscription quick link in the sidebar.

    You probably should get your podcast feed's link over here on the blog. It will make it easier for us who know how to and for those who don't use iTunes to subscribe to your podcast.

    An audio professional like your self probably already knew this, and you just haven't gotten to it yet.

    Keep up the great work. Until your next opening bell.

    @wrestlingfan
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  2. Yeah, I'm just a perfectionist and wanted a proper listing, but you're right, I should just do it that way for now. Thanks for listening and thanks for the advice!
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  3. I fail to see how Cheech and Chong and Snoop Dogg doing 'adult things' shall we call them is 'hypocritical'. I can understand your point about the midget, though. Cheech, Chong and Snoop Dogg have, at some point, been connected to drug use. None of the three celebrities are 'talents' nor even employees of World Wrestling Entertainment. Meaning that WWE aren't being hypocrites telling their talents not to, and implying that the celebrities were.

    Furthermore, WWE's wellness program is about testing for recreational drug use - a.k.a drugs that athletes use to enhance their performances. The segment between Cheech, Chong and the midget didn't imply they did any of that. It implied that there was something in the cereal they were eating. Once again, not hypocritical of WWE. Those segments weren't saying 'It's ok for our talents to pretend to do it, but we'll find them in real life'. Instead, they were using characteristics of the celebrities on their program during skits on Raw.
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  4. But WWE is celebrating these characteristics of these celebrities. Cheech & Chong or Snoop Dogg smoking weed is funny and cool, but our own wrestlers smoking weed on their personal time is a $2500 fine, a loss of a push, and potentially termination from their contract.

    I'm not sure what you meant in the first sentence of your second paragraph. The Wellness Program tests for ALL drugs, recreational or performance-enhancing. Regardless of whether or not they used "cereal" to make the joke, WWE implied some kind of mind-altering substance, most likely marijuana, which is a banned substance in the WWE's Wellness Policy:

    "The Substance Abuse and Drug Testing Policy (“Policy”) prohibits the non-medical use
    and associate abuse of prescription medications and performance-enhancing drugs, as
    well as the use, possession and/or distribution of illegal drugs by WWE Talent."

    Even if they weren't saying it's okay for their talents to do it (though like you admitted, Hornswoggle is a talent), they're still giving off the message that mind-altering substances are fun as long as non-wrestling celebrities use them... but if anyone employed by the company uses them, they'll be in trouble. That's hypocrisy, and the nonsensical logic that keeps marijuana illegal.
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  5. In my opinion, they're saying that they will not allow their talents to do it, but there are people who do do it. That's a matter of fact. While a talent is in WWE, they must abide by WWE's rules. If WWE choose to say no to their talents doing any kind of drug, then that's that. If WWE choose to do a skit between two celebrities who have a reputation of being open about drug use, and imply that there's some sort of substance in the cereal, than that's something completely separate.

    WWE's talents aren't children. They're not going to do the big sibling routine: "Well how come THEY get to do that but we don't." If WWE talents don't like the rules inflicted upon them within the company, they have a choice to leave. If they choose to stay, then they know the rules. It's as simple as that.
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  6. WWE has the right to make any rules they wish, but you can't celebrate drug use on TV and then punish those who do it privately.

    Here's my problem with their rules on marijuana, it's treated differently than all the other drugs because it's illegal, but it's not treated too seriously because they know it's not something to be concerned about like steroids or prescription medication. But Brian Kendrick himself has admitted in interviews that it lead to his release, so it's a banned substance that gets treated lighter than other banned substances, but it can still cost you your job... maybe.

    It's wishy-washy, and couple that with "hey isn't smoking pot funny and cool when Cheech & Chong do it?!", it's a mixed-signal at best, hypocritical at worst.

    Maybe if they treated marijuana like they do alcohol, this situation wouldn't reflect so poorly on them. Make this rule: don't smoke pot for 18 hours before you come to work. As long as people do it responsibly and it doesn't affect their job performance, then problem solved.
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  7. Spin it another way. Look at it from all angles. Could WWE not have been saying, "Look at what a substance does to you. It makes you do strange things." Why does it have to be that they're 'celebrating' drug use, as you say.

    Who said there was marijuana in that? YOU decided it was marijuana. I'm not saying it wasn't, but it seems like a personal vendetta you have toward marijuana, as opposed to anything WWE have done.

    If WWE were literally having Cheech or Chong put a spliff in their mouth, and have a big bit of text come across the screen saying: "Hey, this is REALLY funny, don't you agree?" it would be different. They're not, they're implying that there was something in the cereal. Yet we don't actually know what their implication was intended to be.

    Again, it's a matter of choice for the talents. Don't like it, don't put up with it.
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  8. My only issue with the entire thing was how unfunny it was, I'm not bothered if it's hypocritical if a segment is just that damned stupid.
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  9. Now you're getting a tad ridiculous. They were "celebrating" it because it was a comedy sketch, the magical Lucky Charms lead to goofy fun.

    "Personal vendetta against marijuana"? I'm not sure you're actually listening. I don't have a personal vendetta against marijuana, I think marijuana should be 100% legal across the board in every state.

    Whatever was "in" the cereal is irrelevant because it's two notorious pot smokers getting "high" off something, that's the whole point of the joke.

    The matter of choice for the talents is entirely valid and I agree, if you smoke pot in WWE, you may run into problems... but WWE isn't being straight about it. They bring Cheech & Chong on, in the middle of their Get It Legal tour, but punish wrestlers who do It in their private lives. That is the hypocrisy.
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  10. Apologies on the confusion. I meant a vendetta on the legality of pot smoking. My mistake.

    I'm not getting 'ridiculous'. I'm throwing out a suggestion to make the debate more well-rounded. There's nothing wrong with that. Agreed, it was a comedy segment when William Regal got involved and that stupid hair thing.

    I suppose this is all about interpretation. You're taking what they did as hypocrisy. I look at it a different way. But there's nothing more I can explain about my opinion without going round again.
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  11. Hang on, how can you say "YYou're getting ridiculous". That's like saying, "Well I have nothing I can say to that, so I'll demean it completely."
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  12. Clearly it was not meant as an anti-drug message, it was a comedy sketch designed to get people to laugh at Cheech & Chong.

    Justin, if you honestly agree that was WWE's attempt at an after school special, then yeah... ridiculous. Also, that comment was aimed more at the whole message, especially the "personal vendetta against marijuana," which Anonymous clarified he meant as something else.

    But agreed on everything else, short of us repeating ourselves, there's really nothing left to say without turning into your typical internet pissing match that I already railed against in this episode.
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  13. I have to side with Razor here. WWE's message was obviously that it's OK for Cheech and Chong to do it, and not WWE Superstars.

    Though I don't agree with marijuana being legalized. If it affects you mentally, you shouldn't be taking it.
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  14. A lot of perfectly legal things affect you mentally.
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  16. Alcohol, caffeine, nicotine, medication, certain foods, etc.
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  17. Alchol I don't like for personal reasons, so it would be biased of me to tell you it should be banned. Though I would argue the point if I had to.

    Caffeine doesn't change you mentally, not like getting drunk or smoking a joint. Caffeine helps you stay awake, it doesn't change the way you think.

    Nicotine, see alcohol. Though I'd debate against it's legalisation if I had to.

    Certain foods is very vague, and I don't know how they change you mentally.
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  18. Caffeine is indeed a mind-altering drug:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caffeine

    And certain foods have been scientifically proven to alter mood. The "high" is obviously not like crack, but that doesn't mean that certain pleasure centers of the brain aren't activated by certain foods.

    And I'm not saying this as some hardcore pot smoker, I could count on one hand how many times I've done it, but in terms of being "affected mentally," all it ever did to me was make me feel sleepy. I've been negatively affected by alcohol way more than I ever have been by marijuana.
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  19. My interpretation 'altering mood' would be comfort eating, but that's just my opinion. Not necessarily fact.

    Regardless of what it does, it's been deemed illegal for a reason. That reason is because someone somewhere in power believes, or has reason to believe, it damages you mentally.

    "When cannabis is smoked, its compounds rapidly enter the bloodstream and are transported directly to the brain and other parts of the body. The feeling of being ‘stoned’ or ‘high’ is caused mainly by the delta-9-THC binding to cannabinoid receptors in the brain. A receptor is a site on a brain cell where certain substances can stick or “bind” for a while. If this happens, it has an effect on the cell and the nerve impulses it produces. Curiously, there are also cannabis-like substances produced naturally by the brain itself – these are called endocannabinoids." - This information is stating that it affects your brain.
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  20. And again, a lot of legal things affect you mentally. And a lot of legal things damage you physically. If you eat a Triple Whopper everyday, it's going to kill you a lot faster than marijuana ever will.

    Not to get off an entirely separate rant, but marijuana is only illegal because of decades of misinformation, it will be legalized within our lifetimes. Already is in a few parts of the country.
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  21. "And again, a lot of legal things affect you mentally. And a lot of legal things damage you physically. If you eat a Triple Whopper everyday, it's going to kill you a lot faster than marijuana ever will."

    Fair enough. Agree to differ.

    "Not to get off an entirely separate rant, but marijuana is only illegal because of decades of misinformation, it will be legalized within our lifetimes. Already is in a few parts of the country."

    Whether that's a good thing or not is, once again, opinion. In mine, the fact that it's illegal is a good thing.
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  22. That's your opinion to hold, and my opinion is that keeping it illegal creates more problems than legalizing it would. But again, that's getting way off the point I was trying to make on Kick-Out!! Radio, but I do encourage you to look a bit further into the subject.
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